Friday, April 8, 2011

What Harris Said



Having just listened to the Sam Harris/William Lane Craig debate, I want to just illuminate one portion of the debate that really made me giddy. It was Sam Harris’ twelve minute rebuttal that began with the statistics that 9 million children die each year under the age of five. It was as if Harris was saying EXACTLY what I feel about the Christian religion. I was so excited about it that I ran around the house to look for my wife because I wanted her to hear this. She continues to wonder why I’m an atheist, and I can tell her in plain terms but Sam Harris says it with such clarity and poignancy that anything I said would be an injustice. Unfortunately, she wasn’t around at the time.

This speech that he gives is something that I wish every Christian would listen to. If they just shrug their shoulders at the end and say, “well, god is mysterious” than I think a justifiable homicide is in order. And yet, I know that many Christians will do exactly that. They can live with the idea that what god says goes and that he is our authority figure who never falters from being 100% correct in every command. He would be right to tell you to sacrifice your child or kill a group of children but you would be wrong to do the same thing without his authority. How can something be objectively right or wrong solely on who is giving the orders? It has to be right or wrong all of the time and regardless of what the orders are to be an objective standard. As Harris points out in the Q/A section, even children know that it is wrong to punch another child in the face even when an authority figure like a teacher tells you to do so.

As stated earlier, Harris points out that 9 million children die each year under the age of five. It would be analogous to the 2004 Japan tsunami occurring every ten days and only killing children less than five all year around. He goes on to illustrate the agony that the bereaved parents are going through who very likely prayed wholeheartedly for their child to survive. Tragically, the children die and it renders us with the conclusion that either god is incapable of helping them, or he simply doesn’t care. Some might say that this is all part of god’s plan.

Harris rightly states that there is no evidence for the existence of hell. However, if hell does exist, then the majority of people who live in India are doomed for their Hindu faith. Yet, god engineers the circumstances of their birth place and death thus rendering them essentially unaccountable. Conversely, the run of the mill serial killer here in America need only come to Jesus on death row and end up spending eternity in heaven. Hindu’s, on the other hand, perish in an eternal state of torment because of their cultural and physical circumstances. “This vision of life has absolutely nothing to do with moral accountability,” says Harris. God is loving, kind and just but when we point out the horrible things that occur he suddenly becomes mysterious and the tired mantra “who can understand god’s will” plays as a seeming remedy to the travesty. We are told that god is good when something favorable happens, but we are told that god is mysterious in events like the 2004 tsunami where children were torn from their parent’s arms and cast out to drown. “This is how you play tennis without the net” says Harris.

This kind of faith is the epitome of narcissism. The Christian claims that god healed them of eczema but, meanwhile, millions of children go on dying. Harris states that this actually prevents us from caring about the suffering of other human beings. We trivialize their dire situation but magnify the fact that we have a corn on our big toe that god just supposedly healed.

Harris goes on to ask, “why give us a book that supports slavery or to kill those who practice witchcraft?” These are poor principles by which to live, and they fail to support the well-being of humanity. Whatever god commands is good only because he commands it, such as when he orders the Israelites to slaughter the Amalekites. It is easy to rationalize the slaughtering of children when god tells you to do so and that's what makes religion so scary. The “horror of religion” is that it allows perfectly rationale and sane people to believe by the billions what only a few psychopaths would normally believe.

Harris states, “Salvation depends on believing in him on bad evidence”. God got tired of being helpful and hasn’t performed any miracles nor shown his face in 2,000 years. Christianity is a cult of human sacrifice, and Christians celebrate a single human sacrifice as though it was effective. Jesus suffered the crucifixion so none have to suffer hell. This is of course excluding the billions who live in India or the billions throughout history who haven’t received the message.

Anyway, it was some of the best stuff I’ve heard that summarizes exactly how I feel in such a poetic and articulate manner. I don’t necessarily want to get in to who won or lost, but I think that Harris brought up a brilliant point with great poignancy that the god of the O.T. is seriously lacking as an example of objective morality. You can listen to the audio debate here.

Wednesday, April 6, 2011

My Thoughts on the Ray Comfort/Atheist Experience Discussion

After recently listening to the Ray Comfort/Atheist Experience discussion, I’ve concluded, as Matt Dillahunty kept suggesting, that Mr. Comfort is always going to place the “evidence” from the Bible over that of modern scientific research. Ray will simply side with the Bible whenever and wherever conflict emerges. He’s uncomfortable with evolution because it’s seemingly at odds with the Bible and particularly Genesis; Although, there are many evangelicals who accept the evidence of evolution. He doesn’t like how old scientists are claiming the earth to be, or the fact that the age has changed quite a bit throughout the centuries. The estimates generally keep going further and further from where Ray’s comfort zone seems to lie, a mere 10,000 years old. Then again, Ray tried to say that the age of the earth doesn’t matter because saving souls is more important. Indeed, anything that science says which contradicts the Bible’s “facts” no longer seems to matter.

Matt tried to explain that evolution is what medical researchers use today to combat viruses and bacterial infections. Russell spoke a bit about the fruit fly experiment which demonstrated speciation inside the laboratory, and Ray simply shrugs his shoulders and states "I don't believe that evidence." Essentially, Ray doesn't believe man when he contradicts the men who wrote the Bible. This is just too hypocritical for words.

When challenged on the atrocities of the O.T., Ray decides to ask Matt and Russell if they believe that the O.T. is true in the first place. Of course, they state that they don’t believe in it and he then says, “Well what are you worried about then?” We should just live and let live and not seriously analyze the heinous commands god ordered the Israelites to carry out against neighboring countries. Yet, Ray should worry about it since he actually believes that the Bible is true in its stories of war, slavery and genocide.

On questioning creation, Ray stated that everyone knows there is a creation, and its “always been called a creation.” Anyone with a reasonable and sane mind should know that there is a creation. This obviously means that there must be a creator since there is a creation. After all, every painting has a painter. Everything is designed according to Ray but as Matt Dillahunty pointed out, “not everything that appears to be designed is designed.” We can look at sand dunes or snowflakes which look extremely intricate and rich with variety and patterns but realize that they came out that way through natural causes. We can look at the clouds in the sky and see images that aren’t really there because we are pattern seeking animals.

Ray ultimately believes that Christianity is true because of personal experience, not unlike William Lane Craig. He says that it goes from an intellectual understanding to an experiential one. He criticizes Matt for not being an authentic Christian in the 28 years that he served god because he never recognized the depth of his sin and truly repented of his sins. If he did, he would have experienced this presence of god that can only be felt by totally dying to sin. It seems unreasonable that god would have not helped Matt in those 28 years before falling to atheism so that he could have experienced this deeper relationship with god before it was too late.

In the end, the Bible is always the source of ultimate truth because it says so. How else do we know so? Well, Ray has personal experiences that attest to that fact. The Bible stands head and shoulders above the other major religions like Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam because, as Ray claims, they emphasize salvation based on works instead of on who you know and put your faith in, as if that somehow makes it more true. Of course, the other religions could claim that Christianity is false because it’s based on who you know and put your trust in instead of how you use your time and what you do for your god and others, sounds just as legitimate as the argument for Christianity.

Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Ray Comfort on the Atheist Experience


In the end, it's very clear that Ray won't change his stance because of the presupposition he holds in the Bible. He doesn't care what evidence comes before him because his interpretation of the Bible doesn't agree with the scientific evidence. It's an enjoyable hour between Matt, Russell and Ray so please tune in if you get the chance. Here is the direct link to their website and you should see the show listed as #702.

Saturday, February 26, 2011

Faith Vs. Evidence

The hallmark of Christianity is faith and only faith. Christians must believe that Jesus died and rose from the dead with faith and faith alone. The apologists who try to assert that there is evidence for this event are only fooling themselves. According to many scriptures, god wouldn’t want to give us substantial evidence of the event because our ability to use faith exclusively would be compromised—maybe this is why there are four different stories of the events surrounding Jesus’ death. This may be why there is no contemporaneous or archaeological evidence of the numerous major events that happened in the Bible. The lack of archaeological evidence for the Exodus event comes to mind; This is not mentioning the 400 years of slavery that preceded the escape. The fact that there are no records, or secular eye witness testimony of events like the dead resurrecting after Jesus’ resurrection comes to mind. A parade of zombies wandering about Jerusalem would have been an event worth noting. Faith is SO important that you will end up in Hell if you fail to exercise it and trust in the object of that faith as your god. Evidence gives everything away; things are no longer blurry but focused and clear. We can wholeheartedly trust in whatever we are studying and don’t have to constantly wonder if it’s true or not. Conversely, faith is just the excuse we have to believe in something when there is no evidence to support it. Faith seems to be much more admirable and praiseworthy to god than evidence. He’s not like an earthly parent who wants you to know that they’re always there. He’s like the boogey man in the closet who only exists in your imagination but isn’t there when you turn on the closet light.

Do Not Judge God

These are the words I hear quite often when I point out the atrocities of the Old Testament. Why can't I judge his actions? We judge each other by what we do even more than by what we say, if we're smart. How are we supposed to understand god or decide if he is someone we want to have a relationship with if we can't even judge his character by his actions? He doesn't make any personal appearances these days but he does make quite a splash in the O.T.. I know that some Christians would say that the reasoning for his actions are so far above our understanding, and we are like mere ants compared to him. But, were the stories in the Bible not god's way of communicating his nature to us? When he orders the annihilation of all that breaths, he is revealing a part of his personality and character. It's a part that I can't understand or admire. The answer to my concern usually consists of someone telling me to "not judge god." I can't help but to have an automatic emotional response of disgust regardless of conscious judgment. Humans have an innate desire to protect the young and the helpless. We all hate to hear stories of people abusing children because they are such helpless, innocent creatures. So, why would god order the destruction of these helpless creatures? Furthermore, why do so many Christians find no problem with those actions?

If We All Came from Apes...

than why are there still apes? Checkmate atheists! Or, is it?

Watch the Nova special Becoming Human to stop making such ignorant arguments.

Friday, February 25, 2011

A Few of My Favorite Things

At risk of sounding like Oprah, I wanted to list a few of my favorite things that I go to for more head knowledge as an atheist, and student of science.
1) The A-Unicornist site- This guy has to be the greatest kept secret on the net. Why he isn't more recognized for his blogs is beyond me because they are probably better than just about any blog I've read, and I read a lot of blogs. He is also the one who played a major part in my own de-conversion, and I've known him since 6th grade; We've only recently got reacquainted through Facebook.

2) Atheist Experience Podcast- If you own an iphone or anything similar, you have got to download the podcast. I usually listen to the sunday afternoon show on mondays. They have several different hosts and all of them have great insight and knowledge. Matt Dillahunty is the founder.

3) The Universe series brought to us by the History Channel via Netflix-I've been watching the four year series on The Universe via Netflix and, besides noticing just how ignorant I am, have learned a great deal more about this awesome universe we live in.

4) Skeptic Magazine and The Skeptical Inquirer- I have a subscription to The Skeptical Inquirer and just swing by my local bookstore to purchase the Skeptic magazine that comes out quarterly. The publisher of Skeptic is Michael Shermer.

5) The Local Library- It's great to be able to request a book online and have it transferred to the nearest library for free, nuff said.

6) Dead-Logic.com, John Loftus' blog and any other blogs that I follow are also great resources.

7) As far as Youtube goes, I like to listen to everybody's favorite transexual Zinnia Jones, the always insightful AronRa, the hilarious nonstamp collector, Thunderfoot and the incomparable Edward Current.